So, I would like to take the time to apologize for the massive thread earlier, and all the arguing. You were right, akkartik, I should just go and do it and not worry about what you guys think. I wasted a lot of time and emotions on something that ultimately didn't matter a lot. Yes, using objects is better in some circumstances, and I still think there's some interesting stuff to explore here, but it's not worth arguing about.
I would also like to apologize for making it appear that message passing (with or without objects) was drastically better than wart. I was not trying to deceive, I really did think that things were that verbose, in large part because I was ignorant. Nonetheless, that's not an excuse for the things I said, or the way I said them.
That's very classy of you! This thread helps me understand where you were coming from in that thread. And it helps me to know that there isn't something about message passing that I totally missed :)
