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3 points by sacado 6122 days ago | link | parent

I don't like it. If you want to get rid of def, use =. If you want to teach anonymous functions, just say : "you see, (def foo (x)) is the same as assigning the variable foo a function that takes one parameter named x. This can be written : (= foo (fn (x))".

And it makes fn have a strange behavior, plus the fact that we lose the simple syntax for varargs functions. And how do you read (fn nil nil) ? Is it a function I try to call nil with no argument and no body ? Is it a no argument anonymous function that returns nil ?



2 points by tokipin 6122 days ago | link

with the requirement that the parameters always be in parens, that would be an error

[edit]the inspiration for giving fn an optional parameter is that def is redundant. i don't think it would be strange at all. except for full-vararg cases, a straightforward 'def -> fn' search & replace would be sufficient

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1 point by sacado 6122 days ago | link

"with the requirement that the parameters always be in parens, that would be an error" : not really, because without parameters, you would have '() which is automatically translated to nil. You could do (fn (nil) nil), however, but I don't like the look of it. Not enough consistent, I guess (and a list containing the empty list to denote the empty list does not look right to me).

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1 point by tokipin 6122 days ago | link

well, as a special form i don't think it would have trouble differentiating between () and nil. () seems to be different from '() even though (is () '()) is t

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1 point by eds 6122 days ago | link

'() is (quote ()) while () is (). You won't notice the difference if you pass both to a normal function but you might if you passed both to a macro or special form.

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2 points by tokipin 6119 days ago | link

it occurred to me that (fn (. args) ...) would be decent and fairly consistent, though i don't know how currently possible it is

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1 point by eds 6119 days ago | link

While superficially (fn (. args) ...) may look decent, it is entirely inconsistent with the Arc reader. Function definitions have to be entirely representable in lists, and the example you list above is not a valid list. Not only would this break the current Arc, but you would have to reimplement the entire reader that Arc currently borrows from Scheme. Not to mention that you would have to define what it even means to have a cons with no 'car field.

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